Comments on: REVIVAL And Healing Prayer http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/ The manic mind of the minister -- Auntie Mame Meets Cotton Mather Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:52:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Fr. Damocles http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3177 Fr. Damocles Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:59:28 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3177 Wonderful. I hope one day to have an experience like that. Wonderful. I hope one day to have an experience like that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3174 Anonymous Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:18:14 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3174 Spirit-filled and unplanned? Is that code word for sloppy and disorganized? Because honey that is what this past Revival was and while I'm glad PB had a good time, I ain't never going back. <br/><br/>It's great to leave things open to the Spirit, but it is quite something else to create a useful vessel for the Spirit to use. This means being organized and intentional and not being a huge mess while expecting the grace of the Spirit to make it better. Spirit-filled and unplanned? Is that code word for sloppy and disorganized? Because honey that is what this past Revival was and while I’m glad PB had a good time, I ain’t never going back.

It’s great to leave things open to the Spirit, but it is quite something else to create a useful vessel for the Spirit to use. This means being organized and intentional and not being a huge mess while expecting the grace of the Spirit to make it better.

]]> By: PeaceBang http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3176 PeaceBang Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:44:46 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3176 Anonymous, thanks for weighing in. I agree with you. There were many serious problems with this REVIVAL in terms of hospitality, organization, and other issues. I urge you to contact the UUCF board with your comments. I will be doing the same. Anonymous, thanks for weighing in. I agree with you. There were many serious problems with this REVIVAL in terms of hospitality, organization, and other issues. I urge you to contact the UUCF board with your comments. I will be doing the same.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3175 Anonymous Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:42:20 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3175 Spirit-filled and unplanned? Is that code word for sloppy and disorganized? Because honey that is what this past Revival was and while I'm glad PB had a good time, I ain't never going back. <br/><br/>It's great to leave things open to the Spirit, but it is quite something else to create a useful vessel for the Spirit to use. This means being organized and intentional and not being a huge mess while expecting the grace of the Spirit to make it better. Spirit-filled and unplanned? Is that code word for sloppy and disorganized? Because honey that is what this past Revival was and while I’m glad PB had a good time, I ain’t never going back.

It’s great to leave things open to the Spirit, but it is quite something else to create a useful vessel for the Spirit to use. This means being organized and intentional and not being a huge mess while expecting the grace of the Spirit to make it better.

]]> By: Ron http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3173 Ron Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:50:14 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3173 PB, you captured the feeling well. For me too, being up front and praying with people who came up seemed to be a full circle from that first Revival in New Orleans when I went up. [For those who are wondering i guess we should say it's not an even remotely mandatory thing of course or subtly coercive I think the way we've always done it, and the way thomas anastasi handled it last year in Fort Worth was particularly interesting and i will write on it too later i guess when i post my own reflections on my blog once i get unpacked. just getting back this afternoon.)<br/><br/>But to your great and timely insight about the need for continuing spiritual connection and depth and formation as Christians, I will try to write on some exciting new things on the horizon and bubbling up on this too, in part connected with what Carl Scovel has been doing and envisioning with the retreats and the spread of the retreats he has started in a very spirit-filled and non-planned way. I hope that we can coordinate future Revival dates where they won't conflict for so many people with the Retreats Carl has been doing and promoting, and vice versa. I can see the UUCF related small group movements taking on their own regional revivals and retreats as a kind of di-polar movement of the Spirit in their own area. Having been to both the Retreat and Revival in recent weeks it has gotten me to thinking about doing both as a pilot kind of thing here in the OK/TX/AR/MO sort of area, with others who want to come in always being invited. <br/><br/>And by UUCF small groups I mean, of course, where two or more are gathered...more soon. gotta go unpack the bags and get some rest.<br/>Ron PB, you captured the feeling well. For me too, being up front and praying with people who came up seemed to be a full circle from that first Revival in New Orleans when I went up. [For those who are wondering i guess we should say it’s not an even remotely mandatory thing of course or subtly coercive I think the way we’ve always done it, and the way thomas anastasi handled it last year in Fort Worth was particularly interesting and i will write on it too later i guess when i post my own reflections on my blog once i get unpacked. just getting back this afternoon.)

But to your great and timely insight about the need for continuing spiritual connection and depth and formation as Christians, I will try to write on some exciting new things on the horizon and bubbling up on this too, in part connected with what Carl Scovel has been doing and envisioning with the retreats and the spread of the retreats he has started in a very spirit-filled and non-planned way. I hope that we can coordinate future Revival dates where they won’t conflict for so many people with the Retreats Carl has been doing and promoting, and vice versa. I can see the UUCF related small group movements taking on their own regional revivals and retreats as a kind of di-polar movement of the Spirit in their own area. Having been to both the Retreat and Revival in recent weeks it has gotten me to thinking about doing both as a pilot kind of thing here in the OK/TX/AR/MO sort of area, with others who want to come in always being invited.

And by UUCF small groups I mean, of course, where two or more are gathered…more soon. gotta go unpack the bags and get some rest.
Ron

]]> By: PeaceBang http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3172 PeaceBang Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:59:43 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3172 Stephen, the details were very, very simple. I was baptized in the midst of a worship service, with the simple trinitarian formula, with my sponsor behind me. I hardly remember anything else about it but the feel of Russ's thumb on my forehead making the sign of the cross.<br/><br/>If I did it again I would have gone in for serious immersion, but I loved it the way it was. Stephen, the details were very, very simple. I was baptized in the midst of a worship service, with the simple trinitarian formula, with my sponsor behind me. I hardly remember anything else about it but the feel of Russ’s thumb on my forehead making the sign of the cross.

If I did it again I would have gone in for serious immersion, but I loved it the way it was.

]]> By: PeaceBang http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3171 PeaceBang Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:58:29 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3171 Thanks, everyone. Anniesmom, you're so right. And that aspect of incarnating Jesus for each other is, I think, the least understood aspect of Christian life by those who are not practicing it. From the outside looking in, it seems as though everyone is standing with heads tilted back, tripped out and gazing heavenward at the bleeding man on the Cross.<br/>In reality, of course, we're standing together, sharing bread and wine, sharing life, healing one another, praying, and very much centered on the earthly experience. Thanks, everyone. Anniesmom, you’re so right. And that aspect of incarnating Jesus for each other is, I think, the least understood aspect of Christian life by those who are not practicing it. From the outside looking in, it seems as though everyone is standing with heads tilted back, tripped out and gazing heavenward at the bleeding man on the Cross.
In reality, of course, we’re standing together, sharing bread and wine, sharing life, healing one another, praying, and very much centered on the earthly experience.

]]> By: anniesmom http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3170 anniesmom Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:56:07 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3170 Beautiful post, PeaceBang.<br/><br/>You reminded me of a healing service at my Episcopal church one Good Friday afternoon. When the priest asked if there was something I needed healing for, I whispered my answer between sobs. She then placed both hands on either side of my head, saying "I know," and we both cried during the prayer. It was quite powerful, for it wasn't priest/parishioner but two Christians in need of healing, calling on God together.<br/><br/>Finally, Jim Muholland's piece reminds me of a quote in <i>Spirituality and Health</i>:<br/><br/>"Sure, some people need Jesus, but most of the time, what they really need is for someone to be Jesus to them."<br/> -Reuben Welch quoted in <i>The Body Broken</i> by Robert Benson Beautiful post, PeaceBang.

You reminded me of a healing service at my Episcopal church one Good Friday afternoon. When the priest asked if there was something I needed healing for, I whispered my answer between sobs. She then placed both hands on either side of my head, saying “I know,” and we both cried during the prayer. It was quite powerful, for it wasn’t priest/parishioner but two Christians in need of healing, calling on God together.

Finally, Jim Muholland’s piece reminds me of a quote in Spirituality and Health:

“Sure, some people need Jesus, but most of the time, what they really need is for someone to be Jesus to them.”
-Reuben Welch quoted in The Body Broken by Robert Benson

]]> By: peg http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3169 peg Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:57:02 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3169 Thank you, PeaceBang. Thank you very much. Thank you, PeaceBang. Thank you very much.

]]> By: fausto http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3168 fausto Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:43:09 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2006/11/06/revival-and-healing-prayer/#comment-3168 That last paragraph was just lovely. That last paragraph was just lovely.

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