Comments on: “Un-Sainting Martin”: A Sermon http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/ The manic mind of the minister -- Auntie Mame Meets Cotton Mather Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:28:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Mars Girl http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-16029 Mars Girl Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:07:06 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-16029 Peacebang, you were quoted during our offering today!! I did a cartwheel when I saw that the offering reading was none other than Victoria Weinstein!! Peacebang, you were quoted during our offering today!! I did a cartwheel when I saw that the offering reading was none other than Victoria Weinstein!!

]]> By: marcia http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-15919 marcia Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:41:49 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-15919 I love your sermons dear. And in this one I like how you point out that while bad behavior isn't ok, it has become a way of denying the hard reality of the work that needs to be done. I'll be reading this one again, and I'll look for the book of sermons. thanks. I love your sermons dear. And in this one I like how you point out that while bad behavior isn’t ok, it has become a way of denying the hard reality of the work that needs to be done. I’ll be reading this one again, and I’ll look for the book of sermons.

thanks.

]]> By: tom http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-15880 tom Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:08:13 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-15880 Beautiful, beautiful work. I might add that so many of these saints (including St. Theresa of Avila, who was 16th century, BTW) were never accepted by their own communities initially. Theresa was a vibrant reformer in her own congregation of nuns, and many resented her call to reform, to live a more authentic life. And it actually took a while before her spiritual works, such as the Interior Castle, were acknowledged and appreciated by contemporary society for the great works they were. In fact, the official Church was on her case constantly; the Inquisition definitely thought her to be one of the "dangerous" and "subversive" iluminati of the time. It took a while for her image to be exalted to the iconic image of the saint that we know today (and if I am not mistaken, she and Catherine of Siena are the only women saints to have the official honorific title of Doctor of the Church in Catholicism...and it took the arrival of the twentieth century before that even happened). Sounds like that line of Jesus' in the gospels about "No one being a prophet in his/her own country." Thanks for your wonderful work here; I've been musing over this for a while. Beautiful, beautiful work.
I might add that so many of these saints (including St. Theresa of Avila, who was 16th century, BTW) were never accepted by their own communities initially. Theresa was a vibrant reformer in her own congregation of nuns, and many resented her call to reform, to live a more authentic life. And it actually took a while before her spiritual works, such as the Interior Castle, were acknowledged and appreciated by contemporary society for the great works they were. In fact, the official Church was on her case constantly; the Inquisition definitely thought her to be one of the “dangerous” and “subversive” iluminati of the time. It took a while for her image to be exalted to the iconic image of the saint that we know today (and if I am not mistaken, she and Catherine of Siena are the only women saints to have the official honorific title of Doctor of the Church in Catholicism…and it took the arrival of the twentieth century before that even happened).
Sounds like that line of Jesus’ in the gospels about “No one being a prophet in his/her own country.”
Thanks for your wonderful work here; I’ve been musing over this for a while.

]]> By: smallwundr http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-15845 smallwundr Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:49:49 +0000 http://www.peacebang.com/2008/04/04/un-sainting-martin-a-sermon/#comment-15845 Beautiful and very well-said. Thank you. Beautiful and very well-said. Thank you.

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